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chev4by -> hydrogen (3/12/2008 2:29:16 AM)

hey how are you all doing, im new here and its a pretty sweet lookin web site, i was wondering thou if any of you have been playing around with hydrogen, me and one of my friends have been playing around with it for quite a while now, who would have guessed its explosive eh lol, i finally got a system that works quite well but i havent hooked it up too one of my trucks yet, just interested to see what you guys have to say

  
EuroGoldLS -> RE: hydrogen (3/12/2008 8:49:05 AM)

How exactly did you get that to work? What are the principal part of it?

chev4by -> RE: hydrogen (3/12/2008 3:11:17 PM)

hey im glad to see people are interested, its actaully quite simple, you can use elecricty to break water down into hydrogen and oxygen, water by itself is a very poor conductor so if you add salt or baking soda to water it makes it conduct alot better, i have a container that is sealed, i have 2 rods going into the container that are attached to stainless steel plates inside, half the plates are negativly charged and the others positively chargered, so basically i use 12 volts and around 20 amps and it starts creating gas, i have a tube coming off the top which i then put into my air induction system. i fill up little pop bottles with this stuff and make little rockets lol, but you are creating hyrdogen which is a very powerful gas, about 10 times more powerful than gasoline and your creating oxygen that supports combustion so away you go, it is hard to create enough hydrogen to power a car completly on water although some people claim to have done it, but if you still run gasoline you can add this and most people say they get about a 50% increase in mileage

2tallcustomz -> RE: hydrogen (3/12/2008 4:00:04 PM)

i am definitely interested in how this works out

chev4by -> RE: hydrogen (3/12/2008 5:20:40 PM)

yah them big blocks aint gettin any cheaper to drive, im making a system for my dads truck right now, its a mazda 4 cyl and i'll let you guys know how well it works, some people i no down south have been separating the gas into straight hydrogen and putting it in to compressed tanks, so they make torches, but hydrogen is so powerful that the check valves on regular cutting torches arnt fast enough for hydrogen so you have to be very careful, must have been sucked to be the first person to find that out lol, but your negativly charged plates give off hydrogen so they have like a 2 jar system to store pure hydrogen, i myself am not interested in torches i want the fuel economy, youtube also has alot of video showing these kind of things

EuroGoldLS -> RE: hydrogen (3/12/2008 5:36:11 PM)

I've always wondered how exactly that works. Thanks for clarifying! It pretty much adds a whole new step to the engine process.  Does the hydrogen produce as much explosion as gasoline inside the engine? Does the compression have to be changed? How fast can the water hydrogenize?

chev4by -> RE: hydrogen (3/12/2008 7:26:36 PM)

if air pressure and everything is equal hydrogen is 10 times more powerful than gasoline, compression ratio does not have to be changed, timing however is advanced more, if you try and run a lawn mower off hydrogen it wont start because the timing is so much more different but theres ways to work around that, engines that run on hydrogen do not ping and tend to run smother, but like i said it is hard top produce enough hydrogen to run a engine completely off water, so right now i've been trying to make the most efficent system possible, i guess really hydrogen is like running a more powerful version of propane

EuroGoldLS -> RE: hydrogen (3/13/2008 5:51:35 AM)

Thats very interesting! How big is the system?
I want to maximize my knowledge about this because the question about this has come up in the past.

chev4by -> RE: hydrogen (3/13/2008 10:42:44 AM)

the system is not very big, the container i have is about ten inches tall and 8 inches in diamter, so thats easy enough to mount underneath the hood, then you run a relay for your power to turn it on, now some guys who say that they run their engines on straight hydrogen say that as they step on the gas they have a switch that sends the units more amps..but i can seem to produce enough hydrogen for that yet

ehhget -> RE: hydrogen (3/13/2008 1:01:48 PM)

That is really something, I feel like Im back in college in the chem lab.  Where the hell is my bundsen burner?? LOL  Where did you come up with this idea?

  

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