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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 7:40:29 AM

jmack91z28

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The first thing many people encounter is that the vehicle's computer will start making the fuel mixture richer when it sees the abundance of oxygen in the exhaust. and therefore their MPG actually goes down.

So are you saying theres a chance I won't get better MPG?

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 7:54:36 AM

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Yes

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 8:18:38 AM

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I have another book that came as an extra when I bought the hydrogen book, it tells how to get past the computer issue. You have to build a box that you connect to the O2 sensor that you can adjust the signal to compensate for the extra oxygen. It does not say any thing about what you would need to do if you have more than one or two O2 sensors (luckily my truck only has one).

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 10:38:38 AM

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I have just found this out, you should not just run the hydrogen right into the intake! there needs to be some kind of regulator that regulates the hydrogen pressure in the system and a electric shut off so that when you trun the engine off all the pressured hydrogen doen't just flow right in to the engine causing a floaded situation. I am going with Impco Technologies, they have been making these kind of adapters for over 20 years and they have the setup I need for my 350.

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 10:43:11 AM

jmack91z28

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This system went from a basic guaranteed gas saver to a complex half rigged-up money pit. If you ask me. Kinda sounds a little bit iffy.

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 11:08:34 AM

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The guy talked to at Impco said that he gets like 6 calls a day for the parts to run hydrogen, and he has had multiple people order a couple kits to install multiple vehicles. And one of he costumers (who just ordered another kit) put one on his 2.25 ton truck (that was running diesel) and went form 7 to 15MPGs.

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 12:27:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: northey87

I have just found this out, you should not just run the hydrogen right into the intake! there needs to be some kind of regulator that regulates the hydrogen pressure in the system and a electric shut off so that when you trun the engine off all the pressured hydrogen doen't just flow right in to the engine causing a floaded situation. I am going with Impco Technologies, they have been making these kind of adapters for over 20 years and they have the setup I need for my 350.

Whoever told you that doesn't understand hydrogen. It is very difficult to contain hydrogen. It's the lightest element in the universe and has the smallest molecules. Hydrogen won't just "flow" into anything. It will escape at high velocity and disperse upward. It takes a very secure container to hold hydrogen in, and an intake manifold is very leaky for hydrogen. Under pressure, hydrogen will got right through thin walled PVC and many other substances that work fine for liquids and other gasses.

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 1:07:04 PM

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I guess we'll see what happens.

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 1:35:16 PM

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On all vehicles with O2 sensors you will need to add Electonic Fuel Injection Enhancer (EFIE) to each O2 sensor before the catalytic converter. When you intoduce HHO to the engine it burns cleaner and the O2 sensor will pick up the extra oxygen going thru your exhaust, it will then tell the computer the engine is running to lean and to add more fuel. Your comupter constantly tries to maintain a 14.7 :1 air fuel ratio but with an EFIE you can compensate for this by making your O2 sensor lye to your computer.

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RE: hydrogen - 4/3/2008 2:21:15 PM

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here is the website with the fuel enhancers
http://stores.homestead.com/hydrogengarage/Categories.bok?category=AIR/FUEL+MONITORING

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