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Odd Electrical Issue. Seat heat & power seat - 3/9/2008 10:57:51 AM   
n8tgc

 

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On my 2003 Suburban, yesterday the seat heat for both front seats stopped working. At the same time the power seat controls on the drivers seat stopped working as well. The passenger power seat controls are working just fine. Of course the owners manual is a bit ambigious with regards to the absolute location for these fuses/circuit breakers.

In an effort of futility, I checked all 80+ fuses on the truck both visually and with a meter. All are fine.

Is there a single point where all three of these devices meet? I doubt that a single circuit breaker would control both heaters and only one power seat control.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance for any assistance!
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RE: Odd Electrical Issue. Seat heat & power seat - 3/9/2008 1:44:30 PM   
shawnvw

 

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Here's a few things to check to get your started
looks as though there is a 30amp circuit breaker for SEATS that controls everything pertaining to the front seats. drivers and passenger seats look as though they are grounded independantly








Subject:
Heated Seat Inoperative or Shuts Off In 30 Seconds




Models:
2003-2006 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT





2003-2006 Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe





2003-2007 Silverado Classic





2003-2007 GMC Sierra Classic, Sierra Denali Classic





2003-2006 Yukon, Yukon Denali, Yukon XL, Yukon Denali XL





2003-2007 Hummer H2





The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
Driver and passenger heated seats inoperative or shut off in 30 seconds. There will be DTCs B2435, B2440, B3606 and/or B1825 set in the Drivers Seat Module. The adjustable pedal position sensor, seat recliner position sensor and both heat seat thermistors share the same 5 volt reference internal to the Drivers Seat Module. A fault in any of these components/circuits can make the heated seats inoperative or shut off in 30 seconds, as well as, the seat recliner and/or adjustment pedals may move in short increments when operated. A fault in heated seats, adjustable pedal or seat recliner will affect BOTH heated seats.
Note:: Even if the vehicle is not equipped with adjustable pedals DTC B3606 still may set.
Recommendation/Instructions:
To help isolate the area of concern use the Tech 2 and go to "Sensor Data" in the Drivers Seat Module. Monitor the following parameters for being out of range:
Recline Position- Normal range .39V-4.58V
Pedal Position (if equipped) - Normal range .39V-4.58V
Psgr. Seat Heat Sensor- Normal range 1V-4V
Drvr. Seat Heat Sensor- Normal range 1V-4V
If a parameter is found to be out of range inspect circuits for any opens, shorts to ground, or voltage. If none found replace the suspect component.
Please be aware of the following common areas of concern:
    The adjustable pedal position sensor internally shorted pulling the 5 volt reference low. Disconnect the adjustable pedal position sensor and see if the heated seats start working correctly, if so replace.
    Note Important:: The APP (Accelerator Pedal Position) sensor is NOT the adjustable pedal position sensor. Make sure the correct sensor, adjustable pedal position sensor, is disconnected.
    The seat recliner position sensor internally shorted pulling the 5 volt reference low. Disconnect the recliner position sensor and see if heated seats start working correctly, if so replace.
    An open in either heated seat thermistor circuits (signal or low reference). The most common is the passenger thermistor where it passes through seat connector C305 pin "L" or "K" or C399 pins "R" or "G".
    A chaff to ground on either heated seat thermistor signal circuits. The most common is circuit 5475 black/red or dark blue shorted to ground in the passenger seat near the buckle.

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