Video/Nav Override - Page 3

Yep I bought the Tahoe brand new 10 miles on it, and yes the navigation was installed from the factory. As far as the cell phone goes thats what I understood as well, I was hoping it could marry-up via a bluetooth cell. That would be correct as far as driving a constant speed, the nav will cut in and out. I switched immediatly to XM to see if it was also being effected and it wasn't. Of coarse hen I come to a stop the nav is programmable in this mode. This is my first day on the site, I will do some searching now that I now there is some info on some issues.........thanks for the reply.  CT GMlockpic is closed until the New Year according to there message, I have read that they do not respond to emails and are hard to get a hold of over the phone....

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ORIGINAL: TMW597

Too much to type dude.  You're going to have to do a search on the VSS (green and white wire).  There are plenty of posts on this, and it's purpose.  Again, it's just a lot to explain, and the info is already out there.  I will ask you this though, as it can answer the question whether or not you have it already installed.  Did you buy your truck with the factory navigation already in it?  If the answer is yes, then your VSS is hooked up and installed, and you have nothing to search or worry about.  If the answer is no, then search on my brotha'.  (Let me know the answer though as it can help me to troubleshoot the problem.)

Bluetooth hands free via OnStar module, again you'll have to search on that as well, but my understanding is it's a module that plugs directly into the OnStar box.  Once it's installed your Bluetooth enabled phone pairs up with it, and you're able to use your phone through the factory OnStar/stereo system.  Just so you know it technically has NOTHING to do with your OnStar service.  It's merely manipulating the OnStar module and allowing aftermarket Bluetooth handsfree kits to work through it.

For a guy like me it's useless as I don't like to lose my music to talk on the phone.  Ha, ha.  I usually only half pay attention to the people I'm talking to, as I'm listing to my sounds.  LOL.

I'm still not understanding how one thing works and not the other with your GMLockPick unit.  "Well the XM scrolling is not interrupted and will work after it is activated using the button on the door the nav is the only thing that will cut in and out, this is what I understood that you still need to activate the XM scrolling and Nav manually."  Now when you say cut in and out, is this while you're at a constant speed you see it cutting in and out?  If you notice it cutting in and out while coming to a stop and taking back off, that is normal.

I'm starting to wonder if both you and I have faulty units.  Answer that question for me though on whether you bought your truck new, with the nav in it.

Good to know that your nav came with the truck.  With that information I'm hoping that's the reason why my GMLockPick XM scrolling and nav destinations aren't working.  (Though it will never explain why I saw it work at first.)  I won't know until I hook it up.  Let me know what happens with yours and if you get to the bottom of it.  I'd like to hear what CoastalTech tells you.  Please let them know about my situation as well, if you don't mind.

As far as your OnStar/Bluetooth solution, it's going to be easy as pie once you find the module.  They're out there all over the place.

ropnjessi,

Isn't this exactly what you're lookin' for?  http://www.coastaletech.com/ONSTAR.htm

It's right there where you bought the GMLockPick.

Is anyone with the first gen having problems like ropnjessi and tmw597?  I just purchased the gen 2 lockpick now i'm a little worried i got ripped off.  Anyone else out there with the gen 2 having the same problems?  THanks!  Happy Holidays!

Let me just preface this post with, I'm smiling and not saying this in a mean way. 

People on this forum have to not be so quick to slander a company by the use of the words "rip off", "cheated", "scam", so on and so on.  I'm not affiliated with Coastal Tech Electronics in anyway, but I am a technical person, and with that I do have to say that I don't think they're ripping anyone off.  You have to keep in mind this product is pretty frickin' amazing in what it does, and I'm sure it's taken a lot of R&D to get it to this point.  This is a "mom and pop" company for the most part so I'm pretty sure it's difficult for them to keep up with the demand sometimes as they have lives just like you and I.  I do agree with most though that at some point they do need to employ someone even if it's just to answer phones and email.

As far as your shipment that is on the way.  Again I don't feel you're getting ripped off, but keep in mind this is a new product, there may even be some bugs, but the product seems pretty solid, and they also seem willing to get people squared away even if it might not be on the time frame people would like right now.

Enjoy the product, and give CoastalTech a little bit of time to catch up with the demand.  It's gonna' be all good. 

(Mind you I'm saying all of this and I may have a faulty unit myself.)  You're gonna' be straight Typerod!

'Tis the season!!!!

I installed the Lockpick gen 2 last Thursday and the video screen would cycle between the video screen, menu screen, and then the lock screen about every 5 seconds. I had to remove it after my nav started locking up and my traction control stopped working and put a fault into the computer.
I called coastal fri mourning DEC 22 and let a voice mail and still am waiting for a return call. I know their was holiday in their but my patience are wearing a little thin.     

Did you pull the GMLockPick out, double check that the dip switches were in the proper position, make sure it didn't get bumped while you were putting the head-unit back in?  It could be worth a try to pull it all out and just double check all of the plugs and the dip switches.  Something could have got tweaked or pinched.  It's worth a try until you get in touch with Coastal next week.

I checked the dip switches and #3 is in the down position just as discribed in the directions. That rules out that but it was worth a look.
I put another call into coastal today and they said they are closed until Jan 2. I know this doesn't fix my problem but at least they are not just not returning calls.

After re-reading the installation instructions, I noticed something that might be affecting my situation. The first line of the install instructions state to turn on the vehicle and make sure the radio is off, then procede to hook the harness up. I did not take this step I simply installed it with the Tahoe ignition off. This could be the difference, once again this morning when starting the Tahoe up for the first of the day the nav system was blank, once restarted within a minute or so everything was online. I agree with TMW597 the product seems to be ok just a couple of kinks in possibly the install. We'll see this weekend I'll pull it out and follow those instructions to a "T'.

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ORIGINAL: TMW597

ropnjessi,

Isn't this exactly what you're lookin' for?  http://www.coastaletech.com/ONSTAR.htm

It's right there where you bought the GMLockPick.

Actually maybe I've misread the GEN 2, I thought it now supports Onstar, to me that meant it possibly had the locpic incorperated into the newer product.

Yeah, I'm thinkin' it supports Onstar dialing through the navigation head-unit maybe?  You know how you look up a business and it has the number with the "call" button, or when you have phone numbers saved in your address book?  Again not too sure, just guessing.

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ORIGINAL: ropnjessi

After re-reading the installation instructions, I noticed something that might be affecting my situation. The first line of the install instructions state to turn on the vehicle and make sure the radio is off, then procede to hook the harness up. I did not take this step I simply installed it with the Tahoe ignition off. This could be the difference, once again this morning when starting the Tahoe up for the first of the day the nav system was blank, once restarted within a minute or so everything was online. I agree with TMW597 the product seems to be ok just a couple of kinks in possibly the install. We'll see this weekend I'll pull it out and follow those instructions to a "T'.

Hey, it can't hurt to try right!!??  I'm doubtful it will change anything, but will be happy for you if it does.  Keep us posted.

I have installed the gen 2 today.  Had very little trouble with the fake wood trim.  Pryed it open a little to get a big flathead in there and applied a good amount of force and the clips popped out, nothing broken.  I made sure the radio was off to begin with.  Once I got everything installed I had the dip switch in the position for manual DVD override.  When I started the car, my screen was blank, I freaked out for a few seconds, turned off the truck, and restarted it, the time showed up *sigh of relief*.  Tested it out worked just fine, except for the nav override, maybe I was just gettting confused as to how many times i pushed it, and if it took the first 4 times i pushed the window switch. 

UPDATE:  A few hours after I installed the lockpick, I went to drive to the store and the screen was blank, no time, no power, nothing.  Turned the car off and and back on and  the time showed up.  The next thing I noticed now that my rear entertainment screen, does not show the dvd playing.  The front works fine.  So I UNISTALLED the lockpick. 
 
To get the dvd player to work  normally w/o the lockpick installed I had do a trial and error.  What I come to find out is now I just pop in the dvd, the rear screen works.  BUT, if I turn the car off, with the dvd still in the player and come back to play the dvd, it wont show up on the rear screen at all.  The only way for it to show up on the rear screen, is to eject the dvd and put it in again, remember I unstalled the lockpick at this point.  Anyone having the same problem (blank rear screen) I have while the pick was installed?  If you ask me this product is too buggy to sell.  I'm going to contact them and see what they say. I'm thinking installing this messed up something in my dvd system since i have to eject the dvd and put it  back in to get it to play on the rear screen.   But, in the meantime if anyone has suggestions or has the same problem please let me know.  Thank you!  Happy New Year!

I think that one has nothing to do with the other.  What I mean by that is, I don't think the problem with the head-unit not powering up has anything to do with the GMLockPick.  I think the head-unit not powering up is a problem that a lot of people have been having, and there are plenty of posts here on it.  There's just really something buggy with the software/computer system.  I've had similar problems and continue to from time to time.  Hopefully they will all go away once I have all of the updates done at the dealership next month.

Curious though, why would you want to use the manual mode for the DVD?  As far as the nav override goes, was your truck's navigation put in at the factory?  If not, then I'm told the VSS wire has to be hooked up in order for the nav override to work.

It is tough to screw up this install, so my guess is that a few of us got some bad gear. If we didn't have bugs before the lock pick was added and we don't have any bugs once the lock pick was removed it is pretty obvious that something is wrong. I can't wait to hear what coastal has to say after they return from vacation, hopefully they have some answers. I really want this to work. 

As far as the rear unit not coming on after you turn the Hoe back on while the DVD is in, that is normal.  Someone posted how stupid it was to have to use the remote everytime you want to continue where you left off.  I have the Gen I lockpick and it works just fine with the DVD overide and the Nav.  Only problem I have is I believe the Nav wire is loose so it comes and goes on a bumpy road. 
 
So, if you want the rear screen to come on, you have to put the DVD in each time or use the remote control to turn it on.  Sucks but that is how it is now...maybe Costal can fix that with Gen III....

Hey TexasTahoe,

Did you mean that the issue I'm talking about is a "normal" problem from the factory and has nothing to do with my install of the lockpick or is it a normal problem with the lock pick??  Because I was pretty certain it was not like that before the virgin install. haha! If not, so now that my lockpick is uninstalled, is there something unfixable about my radio?  Should I try to get it fixed?  Honestly, if Coastal doesn't have a fix right now for the problem, I may have to ask them for some kind of compensation to get my radio fixed or replaced.  Not trying to start any trouble with coastal, but my dvd player (installed at factory) isnt doing what it WAS doing before the install.  THanks for you post, at least I know someone else has the same exact problem.  I appreciate it.

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TWM597,

I never had a problem with the powering up issue before I installed the lockpick.  It started RIGHT after the install, the very first time I went to start the truck as a matter of fact.  I don't have that problem anymore after I uninstalled it.  Trust me my friend, I wish it was just a matter of updates to fix my problem not with my rear screen not working.  Almost forgot, the answer is yes everything in my truck was done at the factory.  I have not a single aftermarket part dealing with the dvd/radio/nav entertainment system besides the lockpick.

It wasn't a matter of preference to use the manual dvd override, it was a matter of testing the product to make sure the manual and auto override modes worked.  Every aspect of the lockpick worked, it just wouldnt play on my rear screen at all.    Thanks for your input though.  Take it easy bro.

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Jritchey,

I really want the product to work as well, I didnt have any bugs before the install, but after the UN-install, the lockpick created a bug somehow.  I wont repeat my long drawn explanation, I'm sure you've read it already, its about 4 posts up.  But we're in the same boat my friend, I love the product as well, but now its jacked up my radio, I dont know if I really want to keep it.  If my dvd/radio/nav player wasnt messed up, I would just keep the pick and wait for a new version to come out and buy that.  But now I have an issue caused by this product, which isnt cool in my book.  If I decide to pursue compensation from them for my radio, i have a feeling they might just brush me off and give me the run around.  But they can always come back and say well you installed it wrong or improperly and just give me the shaft, but hopefully theyre good people and will handle the situation with me and everyone else in a honest manner.

No, what I am saying is that all Hoe's with the rear DVD system will not come on unless you put a DVD in or if there is already a DVD playing, push the power button on the remote.  This has nothing to do with the lockpick.  I do believe if you go back and search on Rear DVD you will find a post about someone complaining about having to use the remote all the time to turn the unit on.

It is a design problem everyone has with the rear dvd units.  The rear dvd screen doesnt simply come on if the ignition was shut off and the dvd wasnt removed or replaced!  There is nothing wrong with yours!  Take your remote and push play, make sure you are pointing the remote at the actual rear dvd unit not the headunit!  That is the fix for the problem.  Unless you are inserting a new dvd you have to push PLAY on the remote! 

To get my rear DVD to come on I reach to the back of the center console and hit the power button on the rear entertainment control where the rear audio control and climate controls are located. 

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ORIGINAL: TMW597

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ORIGINAL: ropnjessi

After re-reading the installation instructions, I noticed something that might be affecting my situation. The first line of the install instructions state to turn on the vehicle and make sure the radio is off, then procede to hook the harness up. I did not take this step I simply installed it with the Tahoe ignition off. This could be the difference, once again this morning when starting the Tahoe up for the first of the day the nav system was blank, once restarted within a minute or so everything was online. I agree with TMW597 the product seems to be ok just a couple of kinks in possibly the install. We'll see this weekend I'll pull it out and follow those instructions to a "T'.

Hey, it can't hurt to try right!!??  I'm doubtful it will change anything, but will be happy for you if it does.  Keep us posted.

Well re-installed the lockpic as per instructions and there was no change, everything was the same as decribed in the post above. Something I didn't notice before was the XM scrolling also was cutting in and out the same as the NAV, I thought it was just the NAV alone doing this. Called Coastal Electronics 7:26 PST today 01-02-07 we'll see if I get any support. TWM597 I noticed on the home page of Coastaletech about the new features of GEN 2 and I saw the one part that addresses the Onstar "ONSTAR phone dial unblock" a tad more info but none the less very limited as far as what or how this feature is used.

The XM and NAV will cut on and off (scrolling feature/NAV entry). This is designed in the lockpick so as to trick the system into as nothing is wrong and no error codes sent. Hope this helps.

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ORIGINAL: sjenkinzz

The XM and NAV will cut on and off (scrolling feature/NAV entry). This is designed in the lockpick so as to trick the system into as nothing is wrong and no error codes sent. Hope this helps.

Well I hope this is the case that would definetly answer my question, can I ask what resource you used to get this info?   Thanks

I believe he is the owner of the company!
 
I could be mistaken, but I believe previously stated he owns the company!

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ORIGINAL: biglg

I believe he is the owner of the company!

I could be mistaken, but I believe previously stated he owns the company!

 
He is not the owner of the company, he did start this thread though.  Go back to page 1!!