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Northy- I didnt yet, its a PDF format you can print it.  So chev4 how is your working for you?  I forgot is it running or are you still  working on it?

yeah i made a system that works quite well, i havent really hooked it up thou, i want to make something better i just havent gone looking for a good container, i want a clear plastic container, still trying to find a good one

I got the plans and am going to try it, that would be awsome if I could the housing in clear plastic, see it process in action!

thats cool i might buy some plans one day too, spend pics please of your unit when your done,
here is an air induction system, not a fan of the name but whatever, there are other ones simular but i think this is the best one and its only 40 bucks
http://www.turbonator.com/
this is the best on line fuel seperator 160 bucks i think
http://www.fuelconcepts.com/?gclid=CL2s_Z3RtpICFSrNiQodKRPWcw
 
my system makes so much hydrogen that container starts leaking so i need something that seals better, a clear one would be the way to go
 

Chev4- Check your inbox I sent you an email.

Northey- Awesome- keep us informed, Im really interested to see how that goes.

im going to go downtown here soon and buy some more stainless ready rod, and try and find a container, i'll put pics up of it tonight hopefully

How hot does your system get when it is running, the parts for the kit run like $1000 and most of that is the CPVC schedule 80 plastic, I was wondering if I could use PVC schedule 40.

Yow, 1K Northey what site did you buy from?  I have been doing a lot of research and found systems where it will cost you about 60.00.

The book was $50 from the link earlier, but the materials I would need to build it would cost around $1000. And after reading the book I will have to say that this is a very well thought out system. Not just a glass jar and wire.

hey northey i dont think it matters on the type of pipe, both will work good, mine heats up a bit but its not anything to worry about, $1000 is a lot, does it say how much hydrogen it will produce? if its below 2 Liters a minute $1000 isnt really worth it, and also does it say how many amps it will pull to produce however much?

The book does not say how much it produces per min but it is adjustable and that amps increase as you accelerate so it makes more gas when you are accelerating.

cool i have seen simulair plans before, is that to run an engine completly off hydrogen then? and if it isnt how much increase in fuel mileage

Hey guys I took a good look at fuel concepts product. I also came across another site that is similar to run your car on water:
The site below may be a little less intense than run your car from what Northey says but its build cost is about 150 bucks
 
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=cbsecured
 
I have two vans for our business that are exactly the same I think I am going to install the fuel concepts product in one which costs 170.00 and build a HHO system for 150.00 and put it in the other to compare two similar priced products and see what happens.  Both claim to deliver about the same results but the approaches are very different.

that is a good idea on your vans, be nice to have them both on one and see how much better it does,  they make a magnet that goes on your fuel line also and lines up the particles of gas and is supposed to help, im going to do some experiments with gas and magnets today, i got a design for a carbeurator that i think would work very good

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cool i have seen simulair plans before, is that to run an engine completly off hydrogen then? and if it isnt how much increase in fuel mileage

No, its not to run the engine completely off hydrogen, but they are claiming 45-100% increase in MPG's. If I go with PVC schedule 40  I can cut $500 off the $1000 because the CPVC S80 is that expensive.

I just ordered the fuel vaporizor and Im gonna start on an HHO system this week.
Im gonna keep them on different vehicles I have been reading introducing two systems on the same vehicle could get tricky/dangerous.
Do you guys know if there is a way to test your tailpipe emissions so I could compare results?

Aren't you in Arizona and don't they still have emissions testing there?  Just take it to an inspection station and have them test it.

i think that places that install propane systems have emission testers

Northey- What type of parts did your system have in it that brought your cost up so much?  Ive been looking at a lot of systems and I havent come across one that expensive yet.

There are just alot of parts, the kits calls for a 550ft of 23awg magnetic wire that is teflon coated that runs $0.51 a ft, and a alot of electrical pieces to make a curciut board to control the juice going through the electrodes and coil. Plus like I mentioned the CPVC they wanted was like $500 but I brought that down to $100 by switching to PVC. 

I think the CPVC was supposed to be used to prevent cracking in freezing weather... but you can alway drain the system in the winter time.

Thats what I figured, when I live in PA I just wont use it and drain it in winter. As I am finding out that there are alot of people the same model that I am, because when I call the companies to order parts they KNOW exactly what I am talking about, they are like "oh, for the hydrogen generator". So I am not alone in this project.

Something I'll be looking into soon if gas hit $4 over the summer like they have projected

So Northey are you going to build it?  Im going to start mine this week I think, I am just figuring out which way I want to build it.  Does the kit give any recomendations for cold weather applications?  I live In Phoenix so I am looking into overheating issues but I occasionally go up north where freezing would be a problem so I'm looking into that as well.

Heat should not be a problem, and the book says that if it going to get below freezing then you need to empty the system.